~ Uncutting: On genital mutilation.......

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livelaughawesome:

The difference I see is that FGM is a misogynistic ritual, whereas circumcision is not.

Circumcision is definitely fucked up, but I don’t see it as something oppressive. (Please correct me if I’m wrong here!)

Its initial spread…

Circumcision is oppressive to men, and it affects women oppression as well. It is done socially, through institutionalized authority over genitals, and is continued through the legacy of rituals. circumcision as a tradition is reinforced with an array of rationalized modern excuses that are all rooted in removing the agency from the person it is done to. Society has already made the decision for the child, and the male throughout his life.

Circumcision has multiple meanings in separate cultures around the world. There are social implications to circumcision. It is an act of defining masculinity, and a normalization of how the male body is supposed to look. Once everyone gets used to seeing circumcision, everything else is wrong, or weird, and they don’t understand why its there. This is an imposition that there is something wrong with the male body and it must be fixed. Would you say the thought of someones body born broken as oppressive?

Some cultures use this as a ritual to transitioning boys into manhood. If removing the foreskin is a ritual into manhood, then circumcision is mysogyny. It is removing the feminine traits of the male genitals. Covering the penis and “hiding it” as comparable to the mannerisms of feminine social roles. It hides from existence, and only when it is addressed, will it come out. When circumcised it is always there, and “ready”. It is clean and presentable, it has been rid of the filthy underclass feminine traits. It is a symbolic performance of masculinity.

Some of this has continued in the US since we could read the bible. Communism encouraged us to indoctrinate our people to Catholic beliefs and encouraged their value systems on us. This included circumcision as a sacrifice to god, a removal of human pleasures. This created a certain way of talking about the male genitals, which was to not talk about it at all. Same goes for sex. Genitals are for procreation, not pleasure, right? and of course, the male is in no position to oppose this.

Starting in 4th grade children get an explanation of their bodies. Foreskins are not involved in this explanation. Its functions, the need to clean it. Nothing, the teachers don’t even know about it. Boys, taught to be competitive, and tease about differences. They will make fun of what they have not been taught. The foreskin becomes something to get teased about. When girls come into the picture, they are confused, and don’t know what it is, or already have a preconceived notion that there is something wrong with it. This implies pressure on the intact boy. His identity is removed, and in that moment he does not exist as a person, he is judged as an object by society. A image of normality and ideal, which he must be. He will begin to question his own body. His voice, his understanding of normalcy is altered. He begins to think there is something wrong with his body. He begins to think he is not good enough. He begins to dream about the day he will be circumcised so he will be accepted… I must say, this all sounds rather oppressive to me. 

Feel free to challenge how I have applied misogyny to this discussion.

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(Source: dancing-painted-bears)

  1. legalizeforeskin reblogged this from twelve-shades-of-grey and added:
    interesting thoughts...recent discussion…
  2. superspazzmuffin reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    You’re both using the word opressive wrong, Oppression: Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control. ex. The Slaves...
  3. mycorrhizae reblogged this from twelve-shades-of-grey
  4. ionicaq reblogged this from philosophy-of-praxis
  5. twelve-shades-of-grey reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    Its initial spread… Circumcision...oppressive to men, and it affects women oppression as...
  6. damegreywulf reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    First of all, let’s address the fact that many women who get circumcised and many girls who are circumcised are not done...
  7. hamret reblogged this from dancing-painted-bears and added:
    I honestly don’t understand this point...view. How can you place so much value
  8. uncutting reblogged this from livelaughawesome and added:
    I think you and I just use the word oppressive differently, is all.
  9. dearestandqueerest reblogged this from livelaughawesome and added:
    what needs to be seen is this is what is oppressive about what genital mutilation does (and i’m not necessarily...
  10. fuckyeahtopher reblogged this from uncutting
  11. livelaughawesome reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    I don’t really understand how making masturbation less enjoyable is an oppressive act. Oppression is the systemic and...
  12. thesaintemily reblogged this from scorpysue and added:
    I’m sorry but wtf yes forced circumcision and female circumcision are both wrong but in general I dont say how you can...
  13. anarchafeminist reblogged this from bonesandbirch
  14. bonesandbirch reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    I think why it’s socially oppressive, most people don’t die from circumcision. Most people do not
  15. scorpysue reblogged this from veganmudblood
  16. veganmudblood reblogged this from legalizeforeskin and added:
    Genital mutilation (i.e. medically unnecessary genital...unconsenting person) IS GENITAL...
  17. phoenixsingerpdx reblogged this from philosophy-of-praxis and added:
    Indeed. They are comparable and rightfully so for being both the removal of some aspect of the genitalia. However, just...
  18. scienceisrad reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    Also, circumcision does decrease pleasure from sexual activity as well. *EDIT* And one more thing, circumcision isn’t...
  19. holmes-comma-sherlock reblogged this from bitchiamtheswanqueen and added:
    Uh…the reason why female circumcision isn’t done in a sterile environment is because it is done mainly in countries...
  20. sanityscraps reblogged this from sinidentidades
  21. punkpedagogy reblogged this from philosophy-of-praxis and added:
    I mean besides the fact that male circumcision was actually a practice that sought to regulate male childhood...
  22. dressedforthehbomb reblogged this from philosophy-of-praxis
  23. philosophy-of-praxis reblogged this from uncutting and added:
    I don’t understand this whole “you can’t compare” rhetoric that floats about. Not just about MGM vs FGM but all sorts of...